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Three years ago, a couple of guys who had been attending one of Orange County's longest running early morning hot rod gatherings decided they needed a change. Mark Greeley and Bob Cheatley loved meeting with their friends and fellow "Donut Derelicts" at the corner of Magnolia and Adams in Huntington Beach every Saturday, but the 4 am wakeup time was getting to be a pain. Also, it was a bit of a drive. So they decided to meet a little later in the morning at the newly opened Crystal Cove Promenade right down PCH from them. Little did Mark and Bob know that this would eventually grow to be one of the most talked about exotic and classic car gatherings on the planet. Follow the jump for the rest of the story and links to previous galleries.

As more of their friends found out that Mark and Bob were now at CC, they followed them over there. And as people started to notice the gathering, they'd stop in too, to see the cool cars. Every Saturday morning since they started meeting, a who's who of Southern California automakers and a roll call of every enthusiasts' dream garage has passed in and out of that parking lot. The Starbuck's had to eventually hire an additional 6 workers to handle the customers. On a non-show day, two is sufficient. The problem is that the show got too big. As word spread, the crowds grew from a couple hundred people to the point where the entire parking lot fills up by 7:30 each week. So who in their right mind would complain about having too many customers and too much traffic in its shopping center? The Irvine Company, that's who.

One of the problems with the location is that it butts up to a residential area. A residential area with $5 million condos. Those people tend to get a little annoyed by a Lamborghini wakeup call at 6 am. And so the owner of the property, the Irvine Company, has had to deal with a steady stream of complaints. Changes have been made over the years to help manage the traffic and noise, additional security was hired too, and finally, tickets were issued to slow people down and stop any reckless driving that might occur as enthusiasts gather and get overenthusiastic at times. Not that that was a major issue at this show. The CC crowd tends to be a little older and more mature. But the Irvine Company has decided that the show has reached a point where it would need a permit, more official organization, and most importantly, a new home.

In what appears to be a preemptive move, word is already spreading that it doesn't want these cars at any of its other, larger facilities either, and that has really upset many of the regular attendees. They are not only upset about losing their gathering place, but are also wondering how the company can enforce such a ban on nice cars, and the paying customers who drive them. Some select comments from regular attendees off of Ferrarichat.com:

"So, If I show up at 7 am on Saturday with the F40 to get some Starbucks and I happen to see a friend of mine and we sit down and talk, am I going to be arrested?!?!?"

"Make sure we all show our disapproval with our pocket books.

"Irvine CO SUCKS!"

"We all knew that this day was coming. Like others have said, they can not keep us out... we park our cars and have coffee or eat at Pacific Way Cafe; what are they going to tell us? The difference will be that the "show area" will no longer be there. Is that such a bad thing?"

...and the best yet...

"If Starbucks and Pacific Wayy are open then I guess I'll stop in on Saturday mornings anyway to have coffee and breakfast with friends. If they are open then we must be welcome no matter what we drive. They can't make us go away and be open."

"I can just see the newly posted signs: No Ferraris, No Lamborghinis, No Porsches, No Corvettes, No Vipers, No old cars, No new cars, No for sale cars, No fast cars, No expensive cars, No exotic cars, No trucks with trailers, No Motorcycles, No skateboards, No rollerblades. No loitering, No looking at cars, 15 minute parking only."

Good points there. It does seem a little counterintuitive for a landlord to tell a couple thousand fairly wealthy people it doesn't want their business. It's not like it's a bunch of hooligans doing donuts in the parking lot. So although this seems very short-sighted on the part of the Irvine Company, they are resolute, even turning down regular showgoer Barry Meguiar's plea to move it to a larger, non-residential mall down the road a bit. The lost business will probably be huge and will surely have a ripple effect throughout the community and the other properties the Irvine Company owns.

So what's next for the few hundred regulars who still need to have their weekly "church service?" Well, the most likely scenario has them breaking up into smaller shows at restaurants owned by individuals who are sympathetic enthusiasts, who also like the idea of having regular weekly customers. Apparently that's not something the Irvine Company needs right now.

Three years after Mark and Bob started this thing, only Mark remains to see the show's demise. Bob Cheatley passed away a few months ago and that made Mark appreciate the camaraderie the show represents more than ever. "The Irvine Co. is the biggest landlord in town and for the Irvine Co. ... to tell a group of guys they don't have the right to come here and gather, that's a blow to the community," Greeley said. Wherever the show ends up, whether it be all together or in smaller, marque-specific shows scattered around OC, we'll be sure to keep you posted.

We've brought you photos from this event a couple of times, including just last week, and it has been a truly must-attend event for anybody thinking of visiting SoCal. We've heard it time and time again how enthusiasts have made sure they arrange their vacations or business trips to make sure it includes a Saturday morning so they could attend the show. It is a very sad day, but thankfully we've been on hand to capture some of the good times. Check out some of the photos from another previous show.

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      • 8 Years Ago
      It was written above: every Saturday morning beginning October 21, from 7 - 9 a.m. (Except 10/28 due to Sevenstock.

      Will there be a meet on Saturday the 28th of October? Yes or No?
      • 8 Years Ago
      They should move it to Huntington Beach were the city is more tolerant toward car lovers. In fact, the city promotes the Donut Derelicts on their website. Irvine is too square to appreciate fine cars. You would be better off in to trying promote a minivan convention in that boring town.
      By the way, the parking lots across the street of the Donut shop are usually vacant on Sat morning. Have it there.
      • 8 Years Ago
      One would figure that a $5M dollar home would have decent sound deadening in the walls.
      • 8 Years Ago
      For more of the early days at Crystal Cove look back at my Cruise Night albums from 2-3 years ago, there are a lot of pics from Crystal Cove!


      I wonder how many will move to the weekly Saturday cruise at Monarch Bay Plaza, this one grew out of the Irvine Co.'s previous rousting of Crystal Cove participants a couple years ago.
      • 8 Years Ago
      I better make a trip to Cali while they're still doing this. Its a car lover's dream and it should be a dream to the Irvine Co. What a bunch of morons, think of how much money they could make off this event...
      • 8 Years Ago
      I heard that it's already being taken over at the Ten Restaurant parking lot of MacArthur i& Birch in Newport?
      • 8 Years Ago
      Ok I was just reading the OC WEEKLY and was looking for car gatherings of Exotic Cars. I came across an interview with Art Chrisman. 1st man to reach 140 MPH in the 1/4 mile drag in Santa Ana in 1953. I am a photographer of exotic cars and erotic models (not porn). I am looking for a new gathering of exotic cars cause doughnut derilicts happens way too early in the morning for me.. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE ANOTHER MIGHT BE? And if no one knows another spot to gather HOW ABOUT THE ROOFTOP PARKING LOT OF YARD HOUSE IN TRIANGLE SQUARE? THATS A GREAT LOCATION I TAKE MY MODELS TO BE PHOTOGRAPHED THERE. No ONE AROUND AND FAR FROM RESIDENTIAL...
      • 8 Years Ago
      I think that the comments in Ferrarichat has too much reason.
      But may be best wait a week more, and then see what happen.
      • 8 Years Ago
      I think this is the company that created the town of Irvine, it's kind of creepy. The site said that Crystal homes start at $3mil. I guess even rich people shop at the Gap:


      If some people are planning on still meeting at the Starbucks at 7am maybe they can find a guy with a glass-pack Trans Am to hang out with.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Confirmed moving to PAG/Ford

      The ultimate "grassroots" automotive event is coming to our campus every Saturday morning! The north PAG/Mazda parking lot (between the MNAO Corporate building and the 5 Freeway) will be the epicenter for Southern California car enthusiasts every Saturday morning beginning October 21, from 7 - 9 a.m. (Except 10/28 due to Sevenstock) Over the past three years, owners of every kind of collectible car old and new have been gathering at the Crystal Cove Promenade for two hours of camaraderie and Starbucks coffee. The event has gained international stature, with visitors and Web coverage worldwide, but due to the event's growth, Crystal Cove management announced that October 14 would be their last Saturday of hosting the gathering.

      PAG and Mazda have stepped in and are opening our lot and the PAG Café for enthusiasts to come here beginning this Saturday (The spectators/displayers are not allowed to go into MNAO building.). We've named it "Cars and Coffee" and we expect as many as 400 cars every week! You are encouraged to join in, either with your own interesting car or as a spectator. (Spectator parking will be behind the PAG building and in the South Lot next to Alton.)
      • 8 Years Ago
      as someone who semi-regularly attends, i have two thoughts.

      1. this is the best car show around.
      2. what makes this the best show is that it is unofficial. it is unorganized. there really is no car show. what there is is a bunch of people with sweet cars coming together to hang out at a coffee shop on Saturday mornings. if someone could explain how that's illegal or stoppable, please try.
      • 8 Years Ago
      I seriously did not know The Irvine Company owns Irvine. No wonder its so "clean".
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