BMW 335i and 328i sedans priced
BMW has posted the pricing info for the 2007 335i and 328i sedans. The 328i with its 3.0 liter, 230-horsepower I6 starts with an MSRP of $32,400. The car likely to garner the lion's share of attention, however, is the new 335i sedan, which gets the new 3-liter twin-turbo six-cylinder underhood. In case anyone needed reminding, that puppy's good for 300 horses and 300 lb-ft of torque. Like the 335i coupe, the turbo sedan gets dual exhaust outlets, tipping others off to the nature of the beast underhood.
Pricing for the 335i 4-door kicks off at $38,700, a price you can easily tack another $10K onto if you decide to option it up with all the toys. The same goes for the 328i. You can play around with the "build your own" app at bmwusa.com to see what you come up with. Have fun!
[Source:BMW USA]
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autonews 2:18PM (9/17/2006)
A little to expensive if we want to buy a full option 335i.
http://www.auto-power-girl.com/
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Storm9 2:21PM (9/17/2006)
WoW, and everyone used to complain the 330i was underpowered. Now BMW beats the jappies on a track AND in Straight line preformance.
The new twin turbo is awsome, no lag!
i bet it would be super easy to tune those turboes to put out a lot more hp.
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DPC car videos 2:47PM (9/17/2006)
An Ecu upgrade and exhaust should make the 335i a real rocket :)
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Max 2:49PM (9/17/2006)
The price gap between the G35 and the 335i is not as large as I'd thought it would be. Granted, the BMW has a laundry list of expensive options, but with the base MSRP's so close to one another, a lot of people might stop at the BMW dealer first.
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AJ 3:36PM (9/17/2006)
" The price gap between the G35 and the 335i is not as large as I'd thought it would be. Granted, the BMW has a laundry list of expensive options, but with the base MSRP's so close to one another, a lot of people might stop at the BMW dealer first."
Sure until they realize that at the base MSRP a $38,700 BMW doesn't come with leather, keyless entry, or even bluetooth standard.
You can say its all about the performance, but others can match that performance at a much lower price with more standard features, and frankly no leather at 38K is pathetic.
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335i 3:56PM (9/17/2006)
Pricing has been out for months.
http://e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25892
people are taking delivery of the first bunch ordered in july right now
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Storm9 4:06PM (9/17/2006)
You guys also realize other car prices have went up too right? ie: ES350, is not easly 40k. new G35 will be more expensive than last. Audi has stripped options/features from the A4 to keep its price the same, they have also take out the free maintance.
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razl 4:33PM (9/17/2006)
Storm9: "new G35 will be more expensive than last."
How do you know that? Infiniti hasn't released pricing yet. I'd almost bet they're going to hold the line on pricing, or if it creeps north it'll be a substantially less percentage than bmw's.
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mr 5:29PM (9/17/2006)
$38,700 (+$695 shipping) for a car with non-heated vinyl seats and a single CD player. Right.
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335i 5:29PM (9/17/2006)
@AJ
Yeah, rather than fluff like bluetooth, you get superior engineering and a superior car for your money.
check this out. this was the older engine
http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/features/printer_960.shtml
A test drive will make things clear.
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MikeW 6:41PM (9/17/2006)
And the base engine is the same stripper N52, just overrated now instead of underrated.
The turbochargers on the N54 are small
http://www.mwerks.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=//Features/Road%20Tests/2007%20335i%20Coupe/N54%20Engine#
What would the after market do, replace with huge turbos, add a second intercooler and combine the turbo's charge after intercooling?
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j-dawg 6:09PM (9/17/2006)
#10:
Having a "superior car" makes little difference to most people, who will drive their cars around town, and for whom either car will last for years. Keyless entry has not been considered "fluff" by anybody besides you for a decade now. Leather is expected in a forty thousand dollar car.
No matter how well-engineered BMWs are, they're too expensive for the average commuter, who will get little more from his purchase than the status symbol. Factor in the Infiniti's likely lower maintenance costs, and the 335i just isn't worth it. If one has to have a BMW, it makes sense to go for a cheaper one.
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Adrian 6:29PM (9/17/2006)
#11. BMW's aren't targeted at average commuters. For them there's always a cheaper japanese/french/etc alternative. And BMW isn't trying to compete in this mass market. It is aimed at people with a higher then average social/economical status who want more bang for their buck and I'm not reffering to just performance, but also to luxury. This specific poorly equipped version is for PR: giving the appearance of a lesser price then it actualy is. So please stop making comments like "it's too expensive": that's the way it was designed if you don't like it then clearly you can't afford it and it's not intended for you: don't worry there are surely other people who'll buy it in your place.
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Michael Karesh 6:39PM (9/17/2006)
2007 coupe prices have been in my database for some time. I'll add these tonight. Drove the coupe recently, and was impressed by the lack of lag.
My price comparison and reliability site's page for the 3-Series:
http://www.truedelta.com/models/3-Series.php
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j-dawg 6:53PM (9/17/2006)
#12:
I'm sorry I'm not up to your preferred level, but that wasn't my point at all. My point was that if this is the "PR spec" edition and it's still this expensive, the socio-economic class you describe is certainly NOT getting "bang for their buck," in terms of either performance or luxury--they'll have to pay more buck for the same bang.
The point I was trying to make wasn't that BMWs were expensive, it's that they are too expensive for what you get, and that if I'm paying $40k for a car I expect some things to come standard. I'm not sure why you got so riled up about that, but whatever I did, I'm very sorry.
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Michael Karesh 8:32PM (9/17/2006)
Well, now we have the answer to how much BMW is charging for the new engine: the 2007 335i is $2,100 more than the 2006 330i. The engine was the only significant change aside from an MP3 input jack.
Feature-adjusted price comparisons, base-to-base:
2006 G35 -- $7,400 less (manual trans)
2007 IS 350 -- $5,200 less (automatics)
To perform your own comparisons, with the featuers you want:
http://www.truedelta.com/prices.php
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Zo 10:30PM (9/17/2006)
The pricing information and even the web site has been updated for some time -- this is old news.
As to the arguments, what is the difference between Dunken Donuts Coffee, McDonalds Coffee and Starbucks coffee? What is the different between a $20, $50, $100, $1000 or $5000 bottle of wine?
The are all coffee or wine and you can find similar quality levels at any price!
Why do some people buy $20 wine and $1 coffee vs something else, because that is what they can afford or in many cases they can't tell the difference of the more expensive stuff.
Why do some people by $100 wine and $6 coffee vs something less expensive? Because they can afford it and for many they can tell the difference.
There is no difference in cars vs coffee vs wine.
In a perfect financial world you would buy the least expensive used car that meets your needs. In the real world, people buy based on emotion and feel.
There is no wrong or right and I laugh when I read about people making stupid comparisons. Sometime people are trying to justify there own choice. If you want a BMW and you can afford it and can feel the difference, go ahead. If you want a G35 and like the idea of paying about 7K less, go ahead. But, nobody should comment on someone elses decision unless they are paying for the other person.
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Steve 10:44PM (9/17/2006)
People like Zo are hired by BMW henchmen for propaganda. To tell the public that "there is a difference", even when there is not.
For those who are lacking in ability, confidence and passion and zest for life buy a BMW or Benz to compensate.
Men and women who are passionate, successful and have a healthy respect for excellence buy the best product and do not fall for media propaganda such as "joy to the power of 3".
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Gundar 7:01AM (9/18/2006)
10. @AJ
Yeah, rather than fluff like bluetooth, you get superior engineering and a superior car for your money.
check this out. this was the older engine
http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/features/printer_960.shtml
A test drive will make things clear.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm available to shuttle you around in my Infiniti while your new 3-Series is in the shop for its weekly repairs.
"Superior" indeed. Gimmie a break.
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12. #11. BMW's aren't targeted at average commuters. For them there's always a cheaper japanese/french/etc alternative. And BMW isn't trying to compete in this mass market. It is aimed at people with a higher then average social/economical status who want more bang for their buck and I'm not reffering to just performance, but also to luxury. This specific poorly equipped version is for PR: giving the appearance of a lesser price then it actualy is. So please stop making comments like "it's too expensive": that's the way it was designed if you don't like it then clearly you can't afford it and it's not intended for you: don't worry there are surely other people who'll buy it in your place.
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Let's set the record straight here, once and for all: BMW 7, 6 and 5-Series vehicles are for people with "a higher than average social/economical status" who have comfortably attained success in life and can appreciate a fine automobile without being pretentious about it.
3-Series Bimmers are for social-climbing wannabe pricks who have something to prove to the rest of the world by saying, "Look at me, look at me, I drive a BMW!"
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Kokomo 9:36PM (9/18/2006)
What about those who can afford a 5 series but would not rather have a larger car due to the issues of having a larger car?
There are a variety of reasons why people choose to buy 3s or an IS or a Jag or whatever. You can pretty much treat the "new" 328 as the old 330.
Also, the 335s turbos are TINY and have many properties that allow it to have "lack of lag." However, the trade-off is ultimate power output. Even with variable vane technology, the new 911 Turbo is limited in ultimate top-end power for flexible and useable power across the RPM band. So if you think you can just tune more power out of the 335s? Yeah... but most of it will end up being an increase in low to midrange torque rather than top-end power... but I think it will be relatively easy to equal the power output of the current E46 M3s.
You cannot rev too high due to Valvetronic, that will limit the usefulness of larger turbos. But with a little bit of lag, I'm sure you'll be able to put down 400+whp with some small/medium sized turbochargers like a Garrent 28Rs or Mitsu 16Gs. Question is creating a proper exhaust and intake setup to fit as well as the complexities of working with Valvetronic (no traditional throttle butterfly).
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