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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[I can't remember where i saw this (edmunds insideline maybe?) but i know i read it about a month ago...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim UF]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Good for Mitsu, can't wait for the evo X]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nltankontop]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Um, guys the Bugatti Veyron uses a DSG so it's not like it's tough to make a DSG support high torque motors.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bgdc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[3. Um, guys the Bugatti Veyron uses a DSG so it's not like it's tough to make a DSG support high torque motors.<br><br><br>Umm who owns Bugatti???  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pooks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[VW did not completely develop this trans in house, as the author incorrectly points out.  It was done in conjunction with Borg-Warner.  However, it seems neither company is in a hurry to liscense this technology so it will be interesting to see how it is accomplished on the Evo.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[magilson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:24PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Borg-Warner is the creator of the DSG used on VW's mainstream cars, while the DSG used in the Veyron is not.<br><br>The mainstream DSG is also built in Japan.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Woo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Plenty of rumours running wild that BMW will be getting a DSG in a year ro so... tis the future.  Good-bye, clutch pedal.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pavster]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=96189" rel="nofollow">http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=96189</a><br><br>"The first application of BorgWarner DualTronic, the company's wet-clutch and control-system technology for a new concept automated transmission, will debut on the VW Golf R32 DSG beginning next month, and on the Audi TT 3.2 beginning in March. The new technology enables a manual transmission to evolve and perform like an automatic transmission, yet deliver significantly improved vehicle fuel economy over automatic transmissions of today. The initials DSG stand for direct-shifting gearbox."<br><br>fyi, the dualtronic comes out of a plant in france - i can't find any reference to a plant in japan.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jason seto]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dual-clutch transmissions have been used in racing before. In fact, Audi used them in their quattro rally cars. Chrysler used a dual-clutch racing gearbox in the ME412 prototype (although the name of the manufacturer escapes me at the moment).<br><br>And I think Borg-Warner's exclusivity deal with Volkswagen is up soon, so I wouldn't be surprised if DSGs didn't start showing up elsewhere pretty soon.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Russell]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 3:57PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA["A traditional six-speed transmission will also be offered with the car for traditionalists."<br><br>Take note, VW and Audi. *That's* how it's done.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 4:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[a Bugatti Veyron takes over $7000000.00 to make... and has 1001 BHP... and have a gearbox that should last 20 years... i wonder what that gearbox is made of... maybe adamantium]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[retsel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 4:22PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[From autospies:<br><br>The twin/dual clutch gearbox was invented by Andolphe Kégresse in the late 1930s.<br><br>Known as the "Transmission autoserve Kégresse" it was intended for the legendary Citroen Traction Avant.<br>However, due to circumstances, it never made into the Traction Avant.<br>After improvements it was presented at the 1947 Salon de Paris on a Citroen 11 CV.<br><br>After more than 45 years since Andolphe Kégresse first created it, Porsche had the PDK twin-clutch put into their endurance racers. This PDK gearbox was also used by Audi in their some of their rally cars.<br><br>Today BorgWarner is currently the leading manufacturer of this type of transmission.<br><br>They are most commonly sold under the name Direct-Shift Gearbox, as sold by Volkswagen Group.<br><br>In August 2005 BorgWarner, who call their technology "DualTronic", signed further agreements with two other (unnamed) European automotive manufacturers to incorporate their gearbox. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 4:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA["Take note, VW and Audi. *That's* how it's done."<br><br>Which car are you referring to?  The Veyron?<br><br>All other models are offered with a standard transmission on top of the DSG, if it is offered.<br><br>GLI: MT, DSG<br>GTI: MT, DSG<br>A3: MT, DSG<br>TT: MT, DSG<br>Golf R32: MT, DSG<br><br>So tell VW-Audi again how it's done...?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Woo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 4:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[I recently drove a GLI with the DSG...GREAT transmission, matching revs on downshifts and very quick upshifts.  The DSG in the R32 will be impressive.  <br>However, does anyone besides myself not care for the turbo power delivery?  Tested the WRX and Evo IX and although good power; they aren't very smooth...almost jerky as you roll into the throttle.<br><br>Chris]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 4:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dr. Woo (#12) -- yes, you are correct in noting that VW/Audi offers both "true" manual and DSG in those models, however, VW/Audi does not offer a "true" manual in each flavor of each model.  For example, in the U.S. one cannot (currently) get a 6 speed manual with the 3.2 V6 on the A3.  Also, the new Mark V VW R32 will be DSG only.  Another gap, is that there are several flavors of those models that don't offer DSG + quattro (in the U.S., anyway).  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dr. Woo - I was specifically referring to the A3 3.2 and prev-gen TT 3.2. I had also heard that the new R32 would be DSG-only, but I could be wrong about this.<br><br>There have been others in the past that, DSG aside, have disappointed me for being auto-only: the S6, A6, allroad V8, Passat AWD wagon, and the current 3.6 Passat, for example.<br><br>I get especially bitter about these because the A3 3.2, TT 3.2, and Passat AWD wagon were cars I would have loved to own if they had come with a true manual.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA["3. Um, guys the Bugatti Veyron uses a DSG so it's not like it's tough to make a DSG support high torque motors."<br><br>Yeah, because building that transmission wasn't tough at all...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Alexander]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[starting to like this, with DSG type trans this car will be unbeatable in canyons.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DPC car videos]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yay! the Evo will finally be on my list!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/</guid><description><![CDATA[PJ,<br><br>Blame America's obsession with the automatic transmission and the high cost-to-sales ratio of bringing over a manual for niche cars.  The new R32, not available in America yet, is available with either a 6-speed manual or the DSG over the pond, but there is a rumor, as you stated, that it will be either DSG-only or 6MT-only.  There is a poll on VWVortex for VWoA on which you would buy.<br><br>The same applies to the 3.2.  In Europe, you can get a 6-speed stir-it-yourself or the DSG.  Here...well, you know the answer.<br><br>Consider the previous-gen TT 3.2 an exercise in engineering.  Let me assure you that the next one will get it right.<br><br>The others you mentioned apply to the first point...high cost-to-sales ratio.  The amount of money involved in bringing over manuals is too high to justify the meager sales they would acquire.<br><br>Disappointing, I know.  And I'm with you, really...my GTI is a 6-speed.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Woo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 23rd 2006 5:33PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>