• Aug 3, 2006
The folks at Inside Line managed to extract a little bit of extra news from General Motors at the debut of its new GMT900 pickups yesterday. Apparently the General plans to unveil hybrid versions of both pickups by Fall of next year. The hybrid pickups will feature the same dual-mode hybrid drivetrain that's set to appear first in the Tahoe Hybrid and be able to achieve a combined fuel economy rating of 25 mpg while mated to a V8 producing 365 horsepower and 350 ft-lbs. of torque. The price, however, will be at least $3,000 more than their gas-powered counterparts.

[Source: Inside Line]


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      • 8 Years Ago
      just build a damn 1/2 ton diesel. GM add a urea system, like those they've studied, and be done with it. yes emissions standards are high, so do not add expensive piezo injectors and add instead an urea system that gets filled at the dealer every 15,000 miles, or once a year for most.

      Yes gas is cheaper in areas of the country and easier to access, but diesels tow better and get better mileage. Give me and the market a hydraulic diesel hybrid on the HD and I'm in, stop trying to tell us what to buy. also, the hydraulic system adds much less of a cost than those synergy/dual mode systems adds, and performs just about the same.
      • 8 Years Ago
      The forthcoming dodge ram 1500 clean diesel 5.6 V8 will most likely have 20/25 mpg city/hwy. 224 horses and 460 Nm(ft-lb) of torque. http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/deer_2005/panel2/2005_deer_stang.pdf

      Hey GM why should I buy a hybrid when a clean diesel is coming to market that is already more fuel efficient?

      NeilE
      • 8 Years Ago
      The New hybrid will be awesome. As a driver of a 2006 Chevy Silverado Hybrid that has logged 9000 miles, I get 18 mpg (i get on it alot!)gallon in the city (sw florida). Compared to identical ext cab trucks with the 5.3 which get 15-16 This is great! I also have a portable generator which is quiet to run. (go through a hurricane, you'll understand). Despite what you've heard, the autostart/stop is only noticable when you look for it. Oh by the way, did you know that I can tow 7700 pounds and disable the autostart with the tow/haul button? Add the 8yr 100k warranty on all hybrid components including transmission. All for a price of a stripped prius!
      • 8 Years Ago
      hmmmm... GM taking a crack at Toyota's Hybrid monopoly. Under normal circumstances, I would be prompted to burst out into uncontrollable laughter. But with GM's fortunes lying on the guillotine, I guess they are going to try out anything that works.

      On a positive note, SUVs and Pickups are a good place to start applying Hybrids, given their mileage. SO torque will suffer. But face it - most people who buy pickups come from the "no go, all show" category. Plus, those who really need extra torque to pull their pesky little homes around can always opt for a diesel. This way, your average Joe, who thinks Michigan's cracked freeways merit the use of a Pickup/SUV can reap all the benefits of the solid rear axle/bouncy suspension AND bring home half decent fuel mileage. A pickup truck AND college education for his kid! what a killer combo.

      And while Wagoner's certainly not got me sold on GM's new full size pickup offerings, there probably quantum leaps over the current stock. Not that thats necessarily saying much. One a side note, I must admit that the chrome billet grill treatment on the GMC makes it look upscale, although the whole idea of a luxury pickup still baffles me. Pickups are work vehicles, not lazyboy couches.

      Yup, yup, theres my mess on what I think of GM and its GMT-900 platfom.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Let me see here - the Lexus GS450h makes 335hp, for a 4000lb vehicle, and it gets in the low 20's combined mpg. The Honda Accord hybrid makes 255hp, 3600 lbs, and gets around 25mpg combined (Edmunds long term test). How is GM going to get 25mpg combined for a 5000lb+ truck with a V8 engine?!
      • 8 Years Ago
      I'm curious to see what towing capacity is for a hybrid?

      • 8 Years Ago
      One thing that is never missing, is all the naysayers, I wonder, laserwizard, could you design an engine? I am not an engineer, and would think this is a pretty daunting task, regardless, how many other companies have come out with a diesel hybrid? (none in the US).
      • 8 Years Ago
      9. GM Powertrain already has systems on city buses. I do think they use gasoline engines because they are cheaper to build than the comparable diesel especially with the new emission standards.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Towing capacity of the gasoline hybrid is rated at "two promises and a page of Lutz blogging insults at the press."
      • 8 Years Ago
      I live in nyc but was raised in the UK where any large "truck" such as a range rover, x5 etc enjoys much higher sales of the turbo diesel version over the gas versions.

      Now seeing as pick ups are more utilitarian than SUVs, why don't they all come with diesels as standard? Is it because gas was traditionally so cheap that there was no need to do this?

      BTW laserwizard, I'm pretty sure that the hybrid tech that GM are working on with BMW and I think DC is within the transmission so could easily be used with gas or diesel engines. Don't be so quick to condemmn.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Ok, so where are all you people that complain about American's and their big SUV and Trucks sucking up gas now?

      Yeah, it isn't a Yaris, but it is something!
      • 8 Years Ago
      Actually, $3,000 will be fully negated in gas savings by driving over the course of two to three years. So, it is actually worth the increased price in this case.

      http://www.automobilesdeluxe.blogspot.com
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