• Aug 2, 2006
We recently discovered James Glickenhaus poking around the comments section of our posts on his Ferrari P4/5 produced by Pininfarina, so naturally we approached the connoisseur of cars to see if he'd be interested in answering a few questions about the one-off Ferrari he commissioned from the Turin-based design house. Fortunately Glickenhaus graciously carved out some of his valuable time to sit with us and field some questions. Here are some of the things you didn't read in the article "Beast of Turin" that appears in the latest issue of Car and Driver. Also check out all of Pininfarina's P4/5 images after the jump. Enjoy!
AB: Did you approach Pininfarina or did the Italian design house approach you with the idea to build a one-off Ferrari based on the Enzo?
JG: Pininfarina approached me and asked if I would be interesting in commissioning a one-off car and I responded that I'd be interested in something that looked like a P4 built on an Enzo chassis.

AB: Could you briefly explain the story surrounding the true identity of your Ferrari 330 P3/4 with chassis no. 0846 and tell us if that played into your desire to build a P4/5 of your own?
JG: Briefly I bought what I believed to be an original P4 motor and P4 gearbox and other original P4 parts mounted on a replica P4 chassis, and after a massive investigation found that against all odds I had bought the original P3 chassis remains of P 3/4 0846, 0846's original 66 593 type P3 gear box, 0846's Original P4 heads and various other original remains of 0846, and I totally rebuilt those parts into 0846 as she exists today. Ferrari S.p.A. helped me by recasting P4 uprights for me, and my acquisition of 412P 0854, a "No Question Car," enabled me to restore 0846 to her original Spyder configuration using the original spyder tail of P4 0858, which I also acquired. I am currently restoring 412P 0854 to her proper coupe configuration using her original coupe body, which I also acquired. For those interested in reading an in depth investigation of 0846, click here.

AB: Since it's based on the Ferrari Enzo, we're assuming that the P4/5 will be street legal in the U.S. and meet safety and emissions regulations. Is this the case?
JG: Yes, that is the reason we began with a new fully US legal Ferrari Enzo and all modifications were made within all applicable safety and emission requirements and were crash tested by computer. P 4/5 is street legal world wide.

AB: Having read the Car and Driver article titled "The Beast of Turin", we know you were heavily involved with the development of the P4/5. How much did this development process take over your life in the past year? Were weekend trips to Turin a common thing?
JG: Yes , myself, my family and my friend and personal mechanic, Sal Barone, who has restored most of my collection and keeps it rolling, spent a lot of time in Turin. Sal was over there for months to insure that every thing would be done the way he knows I want it to be and that the car would be fully drivable and serviceable.

AB: Can you tell us about the process you went through with Pininfarina on the design? Did they produce many designs for you to choose from and were they receptive to your feedback and suggestions?
JG: They were totally receptive to my ideas, but Jason's first sketch was excellent and the project flowed nicely from there.

AB: What constraints, if any, were you faced with using the mechanicals and architecture of the Ferrari Enzo? What obstacles did you encounter during the car's creation that were the most difficult to overcome?
JG: We had to live with the chassis hard points but in the end Pininfarina handled the problems effortlessly and it all went very smoothly.

AB: A lot of attention has been paid to the exterior of the P4/5, but can you tell us some of the ways in which the Enzo's interior was altered, as well? Specifically, what's playing on that iPod Nano?
JG: I'm eclectic, but I'm a bit stuck in 60's Rock. The seat covering is a black rubber mesh melded to red leather chosen by my daughter.

AB: Early on what type of feedback did you get from Ferrari faithful and fellow collectors when you told them you were building the P4/5?
JG: Many thought I was a bit nuts but I don't think they were surprised that I would do such a thing.

AB: Car and Driver reported that "Maranello welcomed this unique car into the fold as a fully badged Ferrari." How important was it to have Ferrari acknowledge this car as a true Prancing Horse, especially considering the company's stance on the authenticity of your P3/4? Or was Maranello's blessing just icing on the cake?
JG: There is NO problem between Ferrari and I on 0846. There is no question that Ferrari scrapped 0846 in 1967 and never sold the chassis remains of 0846 to anyone. Ferrari has never disputed nor confirmed that against all odds I discovered what happened to the chassis remains of 0846 that Ferrari scrapped and discarded or that they now are in the car with the accepted legal identity: 1967 P 3/4 0846. 0846 is exactly what it is. No more, no less. As for P4/5 I'm very happy that upon seeing her Ferrari felt her worthy to wear their badge and agree with Ted West's take on how this came to be in Car and Driver.

AB: You reportedly spent upwards of $4 million to produce the P4/5. Was any expense spared or did Pininfarina have a blank check to produce a masterpiece?
JG: The price was agreed to in advance and if anything I feel they gave me more than I expected. (That number includes the cost of the donor car.)

AB: The Concours d'Elegance at Pebble Beach and the Paris Motor Show are the only two confirmed places the public will get to view the P4/5 this year. Are there any other events scheduled yet at which the P4/5 will be present for either this year or next?
JG: I'm sure she'll be invited to a few events but I do want to spend some time driving her before I commit to any.

AB: Word has it that you're one of those rare car collectors who doesn't mind putting miles on the pieces in his collection. How many miles will be on the P4/5's odometer after a year? (In other words, do you have plans to actually drive it?)
JG: Over the years I've put over 500,000 miles on my cars. 40K miles on my Lola T-70, 25K miles on my Ford MK-IV, I just put 1100 kms on my 166 Spyder Corsa at the Giro di Sicilia. I drove my 88 TR 155,000 miles. She will be driven.

AB: Will you be running the P4/5 up the hill at the Goodwood Festival of Speed next year?
JG: I did that with my MK-IV in 98 and 00 and it's something I still remember very fondly. At some point I hope I will drive P 4/5 up Charles' Driveway.



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      • 8 Years Ago
      Thank god people are still able to commision one-off specials involving the likes of Ferrari and Pininfarina, and to do it on the current leading chassis gives so much kudos. If only more people had the audacity and insight (I'm not going to mention funds but thats kinda obvious!) to do so but I suppose that would reduce the effect of this. I've already seen two seperate Enzo's on the street at different times, driven round the city posing, its so refreshing knowing that something like this is going to be driven how Enzo Ferrari would have wished.
      • 8 Years Ago
      That is one hell of a one-off. Test drive video:

      http://www.sporttuned.com/watch.php?v_id=563

      • 8 Years Ago
      Here's one of Jesse and I cruising at the Giro di Sicilia in P 3/4 0846 last year.

      http://www.youtube.com/v/rFTyitiOpS8
      • 8 Years Ago
      Thanks!
      • 8 Years Ago
      Good stuff.. looks like a beaut.. Perhaps I will run across it at some point. My office is a few doors from Glickenhaus & Co. (555 Fifth Avenue above the Barnes & Nobles on the corner) I'd love to see it at some point.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Hi

      Firstly I am very interested in all of your opinions and thank all of you for them.
      I am extremely lucky to be able to do what I do and I realize it. I have the utmost respect for anyone who has a car they cherish and drives it with one that they love. If I couldn't afford cars such as I can I'd buy a rusted Frog Eyed Sprite or an old Corvette
      restore it with my hands and drive it on the same roads with the same family I do. That is worth something, the rest really isn't. In yesterdays Wall Street Journal there was an article about a woman in Hong Kong who paid 15 million dollars for dancing lessons so as you can see what something is worth means different things to different people and the only way to know at any point in time what something is really worth is by auction. That said once again as I never sell cars that I love what they may be worth some day is not something I really care about. There is an enormous amount of work, engineering, and talent that Pininfarina put into this car to build my dream. In my opinion this was not very profitable for them. It was and hopefully will be again an important part of what they do and who they are and that's why they did it. This is a lot more than a show car. It is a fully engineered, world wide legal, full serviceable, fully technically supported world wide indefinatly, fully supported spares program, and in the end a fully blessed by Ferrari One of One that is now carried in the Factory records as FERRARI P 4/5 by PININFARINA.
      I shudder to think what this car might sell for in 50 years should my Grand Kids decide that they no longer Love it as I do.

      As for how Ferrari came to bless this car in the latest Car and Driver Ted West goes into this in detail and I think he got it right. The short answer is that upon finally seeing the car they liked it and felt that it deserved to wear their badge. They have fully embraced the car and are offering full technical support to Pininfarina and stand by to provide any parts or technical assistance I may need. The parts and service manuals are available to any Ferrari Dealer world wide and any of them can fully service the car should I need it.

      In the beginning, before they saw the car it was as Ted noted: "After-School Sports, Italian-Style" but in the end as he wrote:

      "Maranello welcomed this unique car into the fold as a fully badged Ferrari. Under the skin, of course its VIN is indisputably a Ferrari Enzo's. When a kid puts a wing on his Subaru, it's still a Subaru-ditto the P 4/5.

      But it's always best when everyone, especially Ferrari, smiles, shakes hands, and they all go off to the seashore."
        • 6 Years Ago
        I was taking my son to SAT prep on Sunday morning when I pulled onto Playland Parkway and saw a Ferrari I didn't recognize (sorry if I got a little close in the green Range Rover). A little digging on the web and I discovered your one-of-a-kind car. I can certainly testify that you drive it on Sundays as advertised! I wish you years of enjoyment in your beautiful P4/P5.
      • 8 Years Ago
      That's nutty, especially the crazy wind tunnel.

      I hated the design at first (looked like some cheesy "futuristic" car out of iRobot), but it's growing on me. Woulda preferred a little more P3/4 dna though.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Ferrari (for that matter, Pininfarina) never goes retro (in the sense of copying a fixed design), only "takes inspiration" or "pays tribute" to certain models. I like that, and I think this p4/5 was absolutely nailed.
      • 8 Years Ago
      For those interested in more information on the car you may check out the website at http://www.ferrarip45.com.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Hi

      P 4/5 will be unveiled at a Party at Pebble on Friday Night. I will be at Quail on Friday with my 1947 Ferrari 166 Spyder Corsa 002C. I'll have a few invites left for those who stop by.

      On Saturday and Sunday she'll be on the Putting Green.

      More Photos:

      http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/motoringpreviews/202264/ferrari_612_p45.html

      Best
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