• Jul 28, 2006
Pontiac dealers have been complaining to General Motors about the void created when the Sunfire small car was cancelled. With no small car to offer, these dealers have had a hard time attracting fuel- and price-conscious buyers into their showrooms. Apparently GM has been happy to oblige by bringing down the Canadian-market Pontiac Pursuit coupe, which itself is a Chevy Cobalt coupe and perhaps the most blatant case of rebadging we've seen in... at least a couple of months. It was no big deal when the twins were separated by the world's longest unprotected border, but now they'll be forced to share the same lane on the streets of America.

Renamed the G5 to fit with Pontiac's current nomenclature, the base model will be offered with a 148-hp 2.2-liter four-cylinder and the GT with a 173-hp 2.4-liter four-cylinder. The GT comes nicely loaded with 4-wheel disc brakes and ABS, 17-inch aluminum wheels, foglamps and more, though we'll have to wait until this fall to find out if there's anything about the G5's pricing structure that will set it apart from its Cobalt twin. What we'd like to know is if anyone thinks the G5 has a better beak than the Cobalt. We actually think Pontiac's flared nostrils don't look that bad on the Cobalt's beak.

[Source: Inside Line]


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      • 8 Years Ago
      So GM has not learned. This type of badgeneering is a cancer on Pontiac. This is why many people think Pontiac is a generic me-too crap company.
      • 8 Years Ago
      I don't like the styling, the Sunfire looked way better than this, it had more personality. This is just a bland by-the-numbers design by committee.
      Why can't we have the Astra instead? It's the same platform, but it looks... hmm, what's that word.... oh yeah.... GOOD.
      • 8 Years Ago
      "t's strange that this Pontiac Cobalt is being picked on, and not a single word about the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice twins."

      That's because the Sky isn't a complete steaming turd, and the Cobalt is.
      • 8 Years Ago


      a gentlemen's bet here, folks.

      I wager that when the G5 is introduced in the US this fall, it will add a minimum of 50,000 additional sales for GM. it will not steal these sales from the Cobalt, either.

      I don't think most people understand the entry-level car buyer; if you are a real car purist, you won't be looking at any cars in this price category.

      I remember reading Automotive News back in 1986, when Chevrolet was discontinuing the Chevette. the dealers were just screaming.

      the Chevette was essentially never changed since it was introduced in 1976. it was rear drive when everything was becoming front drive, the steering wheel was not centered, the interior was cramped, and you had to remove the A/C compressor to service the distributor. I doubt if the Chevette was the choice of many auto enthusiasts.

      but GM sold millions of them! it may have not been fast, but it was cheap, and ran every day.

      the same thing was true of the Cavalier. from it's humble beginnings in 1982, it eveolved into a very durable and indestructible automobile.

      dont't believe it? a very good friend of mine works for a domestic non GM dealer. all of his sales are to large fleets, with state and municipal governments his speciality.

      he was doing the compact/subcompact bid, and his bid in this category was $3,000 cheaper than the GM bid for the Cavalier. he didn't sell a single one.

      why?

      because these fleets had Cavaliers in them for over twenty years, and they knew how trouble-free the cars were. they didn't want to change to another brand that was not as reliable. they didn't want to take a chance, even if it was that much cheaper.

      I'm cetainly no salesman for GM, but it gets a little tiring to hear all the armchair engineers going on the attack (always) against domestics.

      by the way, the point was well taken about the differences between platforms and badges.

      so does that mean the the Acura SLX/Honda Passport/Isuzu Oasis/Isuzu Hombre aren't badge-engineered, since they are import makes?

      PLATFORM, MIKE, PLATFORM!!

      Mike
      • 8 Years Ago
      When will GM EVER learn? Yet more badge-engineering.

      So, when does the 4 door come out?

      Paul
      • 8 Years Ago
      GM and their products are just a reflection of american culture. A short term quick buck approach is no different than any other american run industry. and all of the posters on this site who condemn GM who are american are probably just as bad in the jobs they do. do you think the auto industry is any different or better than any other american industry. no way. americans continue to talk a big game but are hipoctates themselves.
      • 8 Years Ago
      The G6 will feel alot better when they put the hydraulic power steering in all models, including the GT. Test drive a GTP version if you want to feel how it drives, which is alot better!!!
      • 8 Years Ago
      "...these dealers have had a hard time attracting fuel- and price-conscious buyers into their showrooms ... the base model will be offered with a 148-hp 2.2-liter four-cylinder..."

      A 148 hp engine in a compact car is "fuel-conscious"? I would say that if it was a 100 hp engine, or a 140 hp engine in a mid-size car.
      • 8 Years Ago
      #21 Howdy Paul- Pardon my ignorance ( I'm an American)
      but what is Hipoctates? Izzat one of them new diseases?
      • 8 Years Ago
      Aki,

      it sounds like you're the one with the problem, not any of the "utterly blind GM fanboys".

      "it still buckles to the demands of self-serving dealerships".

      what?

      I must be an idiot here, but who sells cars in the United States? it's the dealers, not the manufacturers. are you proposing that the manufacturers dictate what we drive, and we don't vote with our dollars? if it wasn't for the dealers, there would be no manufacturers, would there?

      what utter crap.

      your "racial slurs" have been completely brought upon by yourself. I haven't seen one post here that contains any of these.

      I've certainly owned a fair share of asian makes, including Hyundai, Toyota, Lexus,Isuzu, Subaru, Daewoo (Pontiac LeMans), and Kia.

      they were all certainly competent vehicles, just like the domestic ones that I have owned.

      when it comes to the issue of parts (and I don't care what it is, from a brake rotor, to an OEM fender), the prices on import vehicles are 50-100% higher. for what?

      do I have issues? you bet.

      I always look for a level playing field; the market with Japanese imports has never been this way.

      MITI (the Japanese Trade Ministry) ALWAYS makes sure that tariffs are high on any American cars that are imported into Japan. the US foolishly never did this with Japanese vehicles (keep saying level playing field). when the US proposed a 25% tariff on imported small trucks back in the late 70's, Toyota shipped them here as incomplete units, and installed the beds stateside with beds made in California. this way, they avoided the tariff.

      Japan does not allow any such loopholes in their laws, essentially closing their markets to any foreign manufacturers. this applies to any items that Japan already makes, not just cars.

      level playing field? I think not.

      I have no problem with European makes; they do play on a level field, and there are many US-made cars in Europe, as well as European cars here. this is the way free trade is supposed to work.

      it's interesting to see all of your GM bashing; in case you didn't notice, they are still the number one manufacturer in the world, and I wouldn't plan on writing this off anytime soon. they may be down, but certainly far from out.

      by the way; is the that "overall image" that you talk about enhanced by such lovlies as the Echo and Yaris? do they offer a power take-off for running farm implements?

      Mike
      • 8 Years Ago
      Well I see most everyone but the rice poppers have left this board. The Cobalt is a good, well made car and all of the above posters don't know that asses from a hole in the ground. I don't really know why I come to this site, it has turned to carp.
      • 8 Years Ago
      #19: The Seat, A3, and Rabbit/Glof are platform mates. they share many of the same parts, but their body pannels are COMPLETELY different. The Cobalt/G5 on the other hand have the same sheetmetal and only differ in their front clip. The coupes have different tails, but the sedans even share those.
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