Filed under: Wagons/Estates, Euro, Hatchbacks, Audi
Audi's new 1.8-liter TFSI to become base engine for A3 and TT
Audi has developed a new 1.8-liter turbo FSI direct inject engine to become the new base engine for its A3 compact in Europe. The new motor is likely a downsized version of the brand's 2.0 TFSI engine and produces around 160 horsepower and 185 ft-lbs. of torque. It will be able to propel the A3 to 62 mph in 8.2 seconds.Since the 2.0 TFSI has become increasingly more powerful and can now be had in versions producing upwards of 240 horsepower in cars like the new Seat Leon Cupra, some are predicting this new 1.8-liter TFSI will become the new base engine du jour across the brand's entire lineup. In addition to its use in the A3, Audi has already confirmed it will be offered with the new TT coupe, as well.
[Source: Autoweek.nl via eurocarblog]
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Steve 12:19PM (7/27/2006)
What's the point of this engine? The last 1.8T had 180hp in the TT? The FSI probably provides some fuel savings and helps offset the turbo lag a little bit, but it seems like they could get a lot more than 160hp out of it.
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dave 12:27PM (7/27/2006)
It does have a little more torque than the old 1.8, too. Maybe there's some benefit to be had there--anyone know the old TT 1.8's 0-60 times compared to this estimate? (I know the estimate is for the A3, so one would assume the TT would be quicker).
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JMa 12:53PM (7/27/2006)
I like the idea of the 1.8T. It would be like the RSX. The consumer can then decide whether the price premium (on the car, insurance, gas...) is worth the extra 40-50 hp.
I like the A3, but the 2.0T is to rich for my blood, but I would consider a reasonably priced 1.8T.
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zinger 1:17PM (7/27/2006)
Just for marketing !
Compare the production cost of the 1.8 vs 2.0 just a kilogram or less of exra metal, and they are going to make it a several thousand $ option.
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dave 1:45PM (7/27/2006)
#4: Unless they raise the price of the 2.0, then I don't see the scam ... 40hp is a big difference. If they slot one lower than the current base model, where's the harm. If there's any marketing wizardry (and of course there always is), it's getting younger buyers into the showroom, who will eventually buy the bigger engine down the road. No harm in that--everyone's got a base model to some degree for that purpose.
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Nick 1:48PM (7/27/2006)
Still won't cure ugly. Amazing how you can make money when every car you sell looks like a Five Hundred.
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bi-vanos 2:39PM (7/27/2006)
As Audi offered the old 1.8T in various states of tune, the TT will probably get a power hike over the A3.
Unfortunately that still leaves VW/Audi saddled with an indecipherable range of engines and models. Hopefully the new FSI engines will result in a smaller pool of engines.
And it couldn't be an Autoblog post without a foolish, ignorant comment from a anti-German/Japanese troll. (Thanks Nick)
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Steve 2:46PM (7/27/2006)
"Amazing how you can make money when every car you sell looks like a Five Hundred."
Seeing as how they are making money in record numbers at Audi, I bet they're glad you don't work in their design department, Nick.
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sp 2:56PM (7/27/2006)
lol, it will not be an base engine europe... who added that to the story? There are two 1.6 engines (102 and 115hp) that are going nowhere...
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jscro 3:05PM (7/27/2006)
"Unfortunately that still leaves VW/Audi saddled with an indecipherable range of engines and models. Hopefully the new FSI engines will result in a smaller pool of engines."
Are you in Europe? We have very few engines to choose from here. 2.0T, 2.5, 3.6, 4.2, and the TDI which I believe isn't even going to be available next year. That's 5 engines, and most cars only have a choice of 2.
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rip 4:26PM (7/27/2006)
wtf has happened to Autoblog? It apparently is now Autoblog UK.
While it is marginally interesting to read about low volume UK only cars, as an American, I could really give a shit. No offense, but the UK auto market is gnat-sized.
And there aren't even any UK automakers left...
I will, in all probablility, stop reading this blog. Mostly because I'm interested in cars that are actually available in the continent that I live on.
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UK-KID 7:46PM (7/27/2006)
Glad you are leaving
The Audi Engine Lineup is going to be available Europewide
The world does nor revolve around the USA
One Bloody Post that does not include the USA and this clowns start crying
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UK-KID 7:49PM (7/27/2006)
Sorry about the Typo
But I think you get my point
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rip 8:09PM (7/27/2006)
@#12
Still thinking it's 1850 and the UK is dominant world player. And more than half of today's posts are UK related. So you must be thrilled.
In other news, the US is the world's largest car market. So to a certain extent, yes, the auto world revolves around the US. In fact, the state of California is a bigger market than the UK. And considering Aston Martin and Jaguar are American owned, along with Ford and Vauxhall, you can say the UK auto market revolves around the US. Or maybe Germany.
And in other news, I could be wrong, but I thought that Autoblog was American. Guess not.
And the fact is, the world does revolve around the US. I'm not proud of it, or particularly excited by it, but when your the biggest player in the world, that's what happens.
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UK-KID 8:41PM (7/27/2006)
Please take a seat
I admit that while the UK automakers were busy making good and desireable cars and not making much of a profit, the so called Big 3 were perfecting the art of Profit-Making by producing road going trash, So it figures that when the UK marques (Jaguar, Aston) got into trouble it was easy for Ford to step in, But ask yourself this,
If the Automotive World Revolves around the USA then why can they not produce 1 Good World Class Vehicle ? Instead the Big 3 resort to mergers and Buyouts of smaller & Better manufacturers in order to Steal Design Ideas
Mercedes S Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Lexus LS, Bentley, Rolls Royce,
These are all World Class Luxury Vehicles that can hold their own in any Continent, Pray Tell how many are American ? Now tell me how many are British ? and the Bentley and Rolls are still Built in the UK Factories.
While we are at it. Why is it that when Bmw Bought Rolls & VW Bought Bentley they both launched New Models that were Instant Successes ( Unarguably)
But when Ford got Jag the result was Mediocre vehicle Releases ( New XK a Joke & S -Type Facelift chased what few customers jag had away)
Not to mention The Damage GM did to Saab when it purchased it ( Check Out the new facelift of 9-5 Series.
These big companies never seem to understand that the appeal foreign cars have in america is the fact that they are not designed like the rest of the americamobiles and once they start to americanise them then the appeal is lost.
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UK-KID 8:55PM (7/27/2006)
The Day you can name 1 American Vehicle that is Bought in huge numbers outside america by the public is the day that i admit defeat in this debate
Note. Why are the Ford Models Sold in UK/Europe way better in Fit & Finish and Handling than those sold in the USA ? How many times have I seen guys from the USA lamenting that another Vehicle Available over here will not make it across to you guys ? Do you think there is a single Vehicle over there we wish were available here ? ( LMAO )
If you guys are the Centre Of The Automotive World then Somebody forgot to tell the Rest Of The World & The Big 3
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Nick 8:16AM (7/28/2006)
"Seeing as how they are making money in record numbers at Audi, I bet they're glad you don't work in their design department, Nick."
Steve, relax and read my post. I recognized that they're making money. I'm just taking a shot at them because of the fact that the Five Hundred is heavily based on the old Passat, A4 and A6 designs, yet it's not helping Ford too much.
"And it couldn't be an Autoblog post without a foolish, ignorant comment from a anti-German/Japanese troll. (Thanks Nick) "
Nice bi-vanos. You know what, that looks like an excuse from a fan-boy that's having a tough time coming to grips with the fact that Audi, a luxury german automaker, has a tough time mustering initial and long-term quality better than your everyday Ford, Dodge or Chevy...yet still charge as much as a BMW or Mercedes. Lets' get into the Audi/VW debate....please. I have a friend with an 04' A4 that has had it in the shop for everything from an oil-leak to recurring issues with his AWD. Quite frankly, I'm sick of driving him to the dealer. And let's act he's the only one. Knock on wood...I've not had one problem with my 20K 03' SRT-4. Anti-german, nope...I love BMW and, to a lesser extent, Mercedes(but really close to being in the Audi group). Just anti-overpriced crap Audis/VWs.
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