• Jul 25, 2006
Motor Trend recently posted a short video review of the new Ford Expedition EL and Lincoln Navigator that contained a few nuggets of new info about the Blue Oval's big utes. We're all well aware that with their 5.4-liter V8 that produces 300 horsepower and 365 ft-lbs. of torque, the Expedition and Navigator are underpowered compared to their GM competitors. MT reports that the powerdome hood on both models will likely be sheltering a diesel and perhaps a hybrid powertrain in the near future. That hood also leaves room for a much larger V8 to fit between the front wheels, so don't expect Ford to be down on grunt for long.
Ford's decision to use an independent rear suspension may also pay off for the Expedition and Navigator, as third-row seating is said to be the most comfortable in class with generous head and leg room. Those back benches also have a convenient power fold-flat feature that their competition lacks.

We'll finally get to see an Expedition EL square off with a Chevy Suburban in the November issue of MT. We're betting the battle will be close, but we'll put our money on the Suburban over the Expedition for its greater power and, we can't believe we're saying this, better style. Any takers?

[Source: Motor Trend]


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      • 8 Years Ago
      And you wonder WHY, exactly, GM and Ford may make money elsewhere in the world, but continue to LOSE THEIR ASS in North America?

      Look no further than the above POS Expedition.

      Where the only "Expedition" is "HAULING" a brood of snot nosed, shit pant kids around to daycare! Yes, modern life is in SUCH A NEED of these "RUGGED OUTDOORSY LL Bean, REI PHONEYS"!

      What does this heap of shit weigh? 8000lbs? What's the figure, there Bubba?

      Gonna go the EXTRA mile and jack it up another 18" such that it can PERFORM even BETTER in the Wal-Mark Parking Lot??

      Hmmm...every argument I see is "Excursion" against "Yaris".

      That's the problem...there is no such thing as "Moderation". Nope, just stuff your face and continue to Consume...such that you live in your own excrement!

      This POS is not only a dying breed, it is DEAD!! Good Riddance Excursion and Suburban! One day in the very near future, these Pieces of Shit will look just as out of place as THIS lovely Ford product:

      http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/228-26499-601236-29359/1978_Ford_Country_Squire.jpg

      Do note the BEAUTIFUL wood wall-paper and the WONDERFULLY fuel-efficient 460 cubic inch V-8. That's about a 6 liter V8 for you metric folks.

      ...All to "HAUL" that brood of white trash children around.

      (And you think a glass of white wine is "LIVING IT UP", huh? Good F'n Lord. Trash I tell ya, TRASH!!!)

      • 8 Years Ago
      "8. We live in a free country don't we?"

      If the *government* in situations, can control what we do with our WATER you know something as God-given as WATER. The same will be done with GAS, so gas regulations to civilians will happen at some point FOR SURE.
      • 8 Years Ago
      And Jeff (#18), your comment comparing the US and Russia each buying bigger and bigger guns during the cold war...well guess what, we won that arms race. Where is Russia now?

      One last comment..you all have heard of Larry David? The brains behind Seinfeld? A HUGE environmentalist, along with hs wife. They love to show off their Prius's and Ford Escape hybrid. Well guess what? Larry has his own personal jet. He doesn't fly commercial. How much fuel does he conserve in his hybrids compared to what he burns in his jet? Will the world survive if Larry decided to skip his cross country jount from LA to NY? Yes. His trips aren't any more necessary than my trip to the store in my Expedition. Ever heard to video conferencing Larry? Just another example of the hypocracy of the anti-SUV and truck crowd.
      • 8 Years Ago
      You don't HAVE to get a Yaris to get better gas mileage than an Expedition/Suburban/H2/M1 Tank. There are plenty of midsize and large car/van options that are more nimble, safer, easier to drive, easier to park, and get at least 50% better average gas mileage, to boot.

      So an Expedition needs more than 300 HP/360 lb ft. to make a decent 0-60 run? Maybe borrow the V-10 from Dodge's SRT-10? How about, for example, an Avalon that can make runs in the low sevens and still return 23 MPG (according to one of the car mags a few months ago... forget which). Or a Chrysler 300 that performs similarly? They're still rather large inside and have cavernous trunks.

      By all means, if all five of you need to sit in a vehicle for hours at a time while carrying suitcases, coolers, beer kegs, mountain bikes, tents, and the boat behind you, buy a vehicle that's designed to do that on a regular basis. But if you only do that about once a year for summer vacation, I hear Enterprise Rent-a-Car has a lot of options to pick from for that one week out of the year.

      I had a neighbor that used to go on a two week camping trip every summer. Man, woman, two kids, two bikes, and all their stuff for two weeks. Did it in an Audi A6 wagon.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Oh, and about you folks who NEED huge SUVs to keep your sweet kids safe, never mind the rollover record for these monsters and the damage they do to other people's kids when you're dialing your damn cell phone and cause a crash.

      One other thing: the Navigator/Expedition are so tall that someone in a Miata wouldn't be able to read your little yellow "Baby on Board" sign suctioned cupped onto one of the vehicles many windows.

      PHOOEY on SUVs and their inconsiderate drivers!
      • 8 Years Ago
      As far as this insipid stream goes, who cares? If you aren’t paying for it, it’s not any of your damn business what anyone else drives! Drive whatever suits you and leave me alone to conserve or guzzle fossil fuels as I have the means to support.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Hmm... millionaire Larry David makes frequent trips in his private jet. Therefore, anyone who criticizes the idiocy of using a full-size SUV like an economy car is a hypocrite.

      That's the sort of tenuous grasp of logic that leads people to commute alone in 6,000 lb, 15 MPG trucks.

      Oh, wait...
      • 8 Years Ago
      Still seems ridiculous to NEED a 6,000 pound vehicle to carry maybe 1,000 pounds of doting parents plus a couple of obnoxious brats plus all their crap.

      A less destructive and more useful minivan would make more sense, but we're not talking sense when the subject is something like a Ford Expedition or the same POS in high drag with a Lincoln badge on it.
      • 8 Years Ago
      *No Dakota just YOUR ozone layer!*

      I didn't know that the Expedition was an aerosol spray can with fluorcarbons . . . .
      • 8 Years Ago
      "We're all well aware that with their 5.4-liter V8 that produces 300 horsepower and 365 ft-lbs. of torque, the Expedition and Navigator are underpowered compared to their GM competitors."

      Please clarify. Are you saying is that this vehicle needs more than 300 HP / 365 torque?
      • 8 Years Ago
      " so I just role my eyes at the white wine sipping, cheese eating, CNN watching, NPR listening, Star Bucks coffee drinking commentators."

      -Fuck yeah bitch and proud of it!!!
      • 8 Years Ago
      3.2 Billion LOSS!!!! :D

      http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060726/UPDATE/607260427

      All, of course, due to "restructuring costs"...HAHAHAHA...Shit NO...it would NEVER have to do with those GD SUV's, now WOULD IT???

      HAHAHA...KEEP IT COMING BABY!!!
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