• May 18, 2006

We learned of Honda's plans to develop an all-new low cost hybrid early yesterday morning, but what wasn't revealed in Honda's press release was the company's plant to kill off the Insight, the first hybrid to be sold in the U.S. and a permanent fuel economy champ since its introduction. Production of the Insight will come to a halt in September, which will leave Honda without its high mileage champ for a couple of years before the new model arrives, which is said to be "suitable for family use" unlike the two-seater Insight it replaces.

[Sources: AutoWeek]



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      • 8 Years Ago
      Other than early battery death (now fixed), I've never heard a bad word about the Insight...

      And thanks to Honda's Insight and insight, we now drive a 2006 Civic Hybrid which we love (although we would love leather and a sunroof...)
      • 8 Years Ago
      I owned a 2001 Insight CVT and it's still my favorite car I've ever had. I averaged 55ish mpg while I had it, and set a personal best of 68mpg over 200 miles on a round trip commute.

      I truly, truly, miss that car.
      • 8 Years Ago
      This is the most awful car in N/A!
      • 8 Years Ago
      Not really a surprise, this is nearly a custom built aluminum bodied car. They probably lose money on each one they sell.

      It would have been cool to have them upgrade this one to work in full electric mode, and then user moded to plug in status. This would be the best car to do it on since it has the lightes weight and the best aerodynamics, it could squeeze more out of batteries than any other chassis.
      • 8 Years Ago
      So with this talk of adding diesel engines to the US lineup, I am wondering why we dont see any Diesel hybrids. Is there a technical reason I am not thinkinf of that precludes this? (Maybe the auto stop/start of the diesel engine would not be feasible like the gas units?)
      • 8 Years Ago
      I drive a 2000 Insight and I think it is just about the most fun and efficient car I have ever had. There is no stearing issue for me. I get 55.4mpg and my best to date was 72.3mpg on the hwy. I live in Vermont. I have seen several others and all the owners get over 60mpg in Vermont. (must be my toe in ;)

      One of the coolest things you can try is surfing, (a crazy way to get higher mi) drive next to and just ahead of large trucks, riding the bow wave...

      I like the aluminum body, and lack of rust. I would like to pick up a second one that did have troubles, just to gut the engine and make a rea EV out of it.

      Most of all I like that fill ups cost less than 20.00 since the gas tank is so small and lasts so long.

      -Daniel
      • 8 Years Ago
      "My point is that ALL Companies, not just Japanese, are making their cars bigger"

      Are American cars now-a-days bigger than the American cars from 15 - 20 years ago? Probably not and I think it is because the American car companies listened to too many dumbasses or the squeaky import fanboy wheels or something because American cars are getting smaller and Japanese cars bigger. The Malibu just seems small compared to the Camry to me.

      "My sister's 2002 Neon, for example, is much smaller than the new Caliber."

      I don't consider the Caliber a replacement for the Neon. I know DCX states such things but to me the vehicles are so different that they happen to be adding one and removing another and said, "Replacement". I mean one is a small car and one is an Aztec like thing. Oh, yeah, I learned from day one not to believe anything DCX states because of "merger of equals". But whatever.


      "This is obvious stuff..."

      No see, you are missing my point. That it is obvious stuff that larger cars sell much better and so Honda should have thought about the Insight more and did something along the lines of Prius i.e. at least something usable.


      "And from your comment it seems you think small American cars sell that much better"

      I don't remember stating that. Just that the Japanese were given this label of knowing what Americans wanted better than the American companies for the last 30 years (i.e. small blah, blah, blah cars) and it just isn't true. It was all smoke and mirrors. When the Japanese were building tiny cars their sales were nothing compared to U.S. companies. Now it is like Calculus. As the size of the Camry approaches infinity it's sales do as well. Again, my whole point is that MOST Americans NEVER wanted SMALL cars and the Japanese are credited for bringing SMALL cars to us and WE loved them, NOT TRUE. Sorry I didn't make my point more better than I did. But that is it in a nutshell.

      • 8 Years Ago
      Rob (above post), the Caliber looks bigger than the Neon because it's taller. But both cars are almost the same length and width. The Caliber is actually a bit shorter as stated from a website below:

      • DOC noted these Caliber to Neon comparisons. It seems that the Caliber is smaller in length.
      ◦ Wheelbase: 103.7/105
      ◦ Overall length: 173.8/174.4
      ◦ Overall width: 68.6/67.4
      ◦ Overall height: 60.4/56

      In any case, the Caliber's hatchback design is much more practical.
      • 8 Years Ago
      " I owned a 2001 Insight CVT and it's still my favorite car I've ever had."

      OK, so why would one not currently own their favorite car ever? You do state, "owned" (past tense) and that year isn't so old that the car shouldn't be around now just because of age. That is like telling a chic, "it's not you, it's me". Just makes no sense for you two to be together. Sorry if I tear up.



      "And thanks to Honda's Insight and insight, we now drive a 2006 Civic Hybrid which we love (although we would love leather and a sunroof...)"

      Another love story, how sweet. Even with the inadequacies of no leather and sunroof there's still love there. That's unconditional love for sure.

      Hope your experience isn't as bad as my co-worker who has 90K on her Civic hybrid and it is having problem after problem. She told me that Honda (I guess she meant the dealer) is admitting a problem with them. Hers is a couple years older than your 2006 so I'm sure it will work out well.

      Gee, I wonder why the General really didn't want to make hybrids. If it wasn't for gov't subsidizing they would be closer to a half of a percent of all car sales in the U.S. instead of 1%. And that is with gas over $3 a gallon in many places.

      Honda should have known the Insight wasn't going to do well. Look at the size of the Accord and Camry, these things are practically twice the size of their predecessors less than 20 years ago (especially the Camry). Buyers of new cars had more kids back then too (i.e. bigger families). The point is most people never wanted the little crap the Japanese were producing (and since we already mathmatically determined that GM sold at least 600K more units last year than Toyota deleting all fleet sales that means that it was a ton more difference 10 to 20 years ago, so yes, that statement is true: most Americans didn't want the little cars Japan was producing, not then and not now).
      • 8 Years Ago
      Lithous,

      Your comment is so pathetic. There are PLENTY of Japanese cars and hybrids around here (Northern VA), even the highlander and lexus rx hybrids that everybody seems to say don't sell very well. Now the Escape hybrid? I don't see that one around too much, even with their 0% interest incentive.

      Oh, and I understand that "most Americans" do, in fact, like Japanese cars...in fact, what is the top-selling passenger car? The CAMRY! That's right! And the second- and third-best-selling passenger cars? The Civic and the Accord!

      Now, if you were talking about trucks, I definitely would agree, Americans prefer Fords and Chevys (F-150 as we all know is #1 overall!) - but no, you're just being ignorant.
      • 8 Years Ago
      #8 - Maybe #1 has since gotten married and had children. Apparently it's bad form to stuff them in the hatch. But I'm just guessing.

      Honestly, can't you envision any sort of scenario which might force someone to trade in their beloved subcompact for something different?
      • 8 Years Ago
      This is sad news, but not unexpected. Even though Honda will always be the first company to bring a modern hybrid to the U.S., it's hard to compete with the practicality of the Prius. Being a college student (thus having little funds and lots of stuff) an Insight wouldn't have made much sense for me, but I defintely could see myself picking one up in a couple of years as an urban runabout
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