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Volkswagen Twincharger TSI voted "Best New Engine of 2006"

Volkswagen Twincharger TSI voted "Best New Engine of 2006"

Posted May 10th 2006 5:40PM

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Volkswagen's innovative marriage of a supercharger and a turbocharger on the same 1.4-liter engine gained the automaker two prizes (one for each induction system?) at the "International Engine of the Year Awards 2006" - "Best Engine, 1-liter to 1.4-liter category", and "Best New Engine of 2006."

VW's "maximum power - minimum consumption" strategy for the TSI powerplant led to designers using a supercharger for low-range power, and a turbocharger for efficiency at higher rpm. The twincharger system is shown in the drawing at right.

The TSI is currently available in the Golf GT and the Touran.

[Source: Volkswagen]

Category: I.C.E., Technology, Volkswagen

Tags: best new engine, engine of the year, tsi, twincharger

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Rocket Punch

I like VTG better. TSI system adds more weight to the car + reliablilty issue.

May 12 2006 at 4:53 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Dr. Woo

I must be a real anomaly. My 2001 Audi A4 1.8T hadn't a single problem one wouldn't expect from a 5-year old car (my total abnormal repair costs ended up around $150 over the course of three years), and the experience was so riveting I had to buy another VAG car.

I now drive my 2006 VW GTI V and she's as high-quality as it comes.

May 12 2006 at 4:01 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

justme

I agree with Peter W. I have a 93 Golf with 214K miles on it and almost everything that has failed on that car had BOSCH stamped on it. I haven't had any mechanical problems with the car and the engine still runs like it's new. I think with VW's you fix a bunch of electrical problems and learn to live with the rest and you reach a certain equilibrium. That's why you see so many old VWs running around.

The sad thing is not that VWs have problems, it's the fact that VW, the company has been so indifferent to them. There are so many problems that VWs have had for years, like door/lock problems, idle stability problems, on and on. How can a modern global corporation be so unresponsive?

May 12 2006 at 2:22 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Richard Warren

Peter,

Are we talking about:

The "coil class action" Already addressed extended warranty

The front spoiler, I ran over a curb (my fault) but it's VW's fault because the car is too low since I boght it and I can't drive worth a shit class action?

The, engine is sludged and I don't have any oil change invoices classaction, already addressed. Already addressed extended warranty

The, my window fell down class action, already addressed extended warranty

The, my aribag went off all by itself class action, where it has been proven the car hit something?

The, car will not pass smog, class action already addressed extended warranty?

The, "I don't know how to drive DMF clutch problems, class action lawsuits?

Or this one "I don't like my dealer" class action lawsuit.

If you paid for any of those you're really out of the loop. Because, you didn't have to.

I travel a lot, I've used a pretty large number of VW dealers for normal service work while on the road and have yet to meet the SOL dealers. And I didn't have any 1,000 dollar repairs right out of warranty. You really need to get over the VW "cheap car syndrome too" they have not been cheap for a long time and folks also need to get over the VW "peoples car" thing as meaning, small and cheap.

And in case you have not noticed, "cheap" does not sell all that well here and makes damn little in profit for the makers, why do you think everbody is moving upscale, even the Koreans?

May 11 2006 at 4:03 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

MikeW

The supercharger primes the engine/turbocharger before the high efficiency-high latency turbo comes up to speed.

1.4 twincharger 168hp@6000, 177ft-lbs from 1750-4500, runs on 90AKI fuel, can hit 7000rpm, goes 137mph in Golf GT

1.5 Honda Fit 109hp@5800, 105ft-lbs@4800, VTEC transition ~3400, can hit 6500rpm, hits 110mph with auto (4th gear), 114mph with manual (C&D comparison) questionable as to whether full power is made with 87AKI fuel

May 11 2006 at 12:47 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Peter W.

You failed to address the class-action-lawsuit issues and the fact that while your dealer may be nice... every other VW dealer usually tends to be SOL and passes that SOL-ness onto you. It's nice to see that you got a couple of good ones and are willing to deal with $1000 right-out-of-warranty repairs on what was supposed to be the "cheap" german car. Most people aren't that forgiving and feel rightfully screwed.

There's also the fact that VWUSA doesn't listen to their consumer base. When BMW is the front-runner in 15K-27K micro-hatches... and all the VW chilluns are clamoring for something "small" again... what does VW do? Bring over the Polo? Nope... it takes 4 years to bring over the bloaterous GTI and a bit longer to rename the Golf the Rabbit.

VW cant bring over it's small cheap car... is too interested in getting as close as it can to being Audi while not actually being Audi.. considering Audi was actually successful and isn't as associable with scandals and management troubles.

May 11 2006 at 10:42 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Richard Warren

"Little wonder why MyVWLemon.com has such a vibrant community."

Oh pleaseeeeeeeeeee, myvwlemon.com a "vibrant" community? Fully 1/4 of the comments are by one person a screen name of, up-the-river who thinks he's an engineer and and an oil expert, most of his repair suggestions are bullshit. There are about 10 posters who hog the site on a regular basis and a webmaster who censors tons of posts of any pro VW comments.

Then take a real hard look at the problem years 2000-2002 mostly and that mirrors the coil and window problems, all addressed by VW. Then read the posts, the majority now are talking about "used" VW's, sorry I have no pity for them, if you're dumb enough to purchase something with no clue as to it's history and have problems, look in the mirror.

And memory is short, look at VW's increases with the 2005-2006 models. VW had a pretty hard lapse for about 2 1/2 years and struggled with suppliers to get production up for the affected parts.

They are no different than anyother maker, let's see Toyota sludge ring any bells? While it's been a while 77-79 Honda's head gasket and A-pipe failures, What's the name of that other car? Excel, no problems there.

Manufacturers have problems, cars, appliances, you name it. Get over it.

For what it's worth I still have a VW Jetta built during this period, no problems at all, my son and daughter have a 2002 and a 2003 the 2002 had coils, once replaced, just fine, the 2003 no problems, I had a 2001 had coils and 1 window problem that's it, sold outright at 90,000 miles with no other problems. The dealer was great, the repairs were quick and that was the end of it.

May 11 2006 at 10:15 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Steve

I guess I'm one of the lucky minorities in VW land. I've been driving an '04 Jetta 1.8t for over 2 years without a single problem.

I guess now that I've said that it will probably break down on the way home, eh?

May 11 2006 at 9:02 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Peter W.

Joey(Kev) #16

The sad thing about making a bunch of enemies by building crappy cars that wait until just-after the warranty dies... is that these enemies tend to talk bad about them.

Also, since VW's tend to riddle themselves with cheap bosche crap (coil packs, alternators, motors, security systems)... Initial reliability surveys probably don't reveal the reliability nightmare waiting for them 3 years down the road if they had the misfortune to finance one of the little beasties.

Also, if the ADAC is european (which i assume it is if you are citing reliability for the polo) it will probably have better reports considering VW's have vastly different trimlines and manufacture over the pond. Meanwhile, most Americans were told they were getting German goodness for the cheap, when they were actually getting BMW problems for Acura prices. The fact that most of the models that soured so many Americans being assembled in Mexico didn't help.

Meanwhile, last time I checked VWVortex there were about two "lets class-action lawsuit VWUSA" over problems that even the ENTHUSIASTS hated. Little wonder why MyVWLemon.com has such a vibrant community.

Back on topic: Yea, I'd lease a car with this engine.

May 11 2006 at 8:56 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Raf

#16

I guess you can count me as one of the bashers..and my feelings are based on personal experience as well as what I've read about the experience of other VW owners. The bashing is not unjustified.

The ADAC report cannot be considered an unbiased report. It is a German Automotive Association report. Regardless, it will take more than one model year to erase many years of poor quality vehicles, and that isn't just my opinion. There is a reason VW is a second tier brand in the US. It's not because of design - the cars look great, and it's not because of engineering talent - the DSG and this engine are unique in the industry. It's because they've built a reputation for making nice looking, seemingly well-engineered cars that spent a disproportionate amount of time being repaired. Even a top level VW official has made a target of a 50% reduction in warranty claims. They recognize they're cars are breaking far too often.

I hope you are right that VW has turned the corner and I'll be first in line to buy their cars. But it's way too early for me to spend my cash on a new VW product. I'll stay on the sidelines until they've established a *longer-term* reputation for reliability. I think many other informed buyers will do the same.

In many ways this mirrors the problems facing the US manufacturers. Many years of sub-standard cars have created a large pool of alienated car buyers. Cars are a lot of money for most people and if you burn them, it takes a looong time to get them back.

May 11 2006 at 8:52 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply