Camaro Concept versus Mustang debate goes digital
Many of us have already taken in Motor Trend’s May issue cover story in which an impatient MT staff pits Chevy’s Camaro Concept, not due out until 2008 if at all, against the Ford Mustang in a digital duel. The comparison occurred in a virtual world created by a simulation program called CarSim. While data on the actually-in-existence Ford Mustang was easy to come by, editors from MT has to consult with GM to cull information on the 2009 Camaro to use in the simulation.
For those who find reading about the comparison a bit one-dimensional, both CarSim and MotorTrend have loaded up their websites with not only animations of the comparison, but also a mini-app called SurfAnim that allows one to zoom, fly around and see the tests performed in slow-motion.
[Source: CarSim and Motor Trend]
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Chris 5:24PM (2/06/2008)
Yea the mustang is better (sarcasim)!!! Thats why the camaro has a BETTER rating the the Sad but true mustang.. its sad how bad it is compared to the camaro.. chevy is one of the best car companies alive..
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MikeW 2:56PM (5/01/2006)
That was one of the worst article to come from motor trend, part of the reason to let my subscription lapse.
They didn't not bother to factor Cd and swept area into any calculations. How amatuer.
Seriously, Ford will have to replace the horribly underpowered 4.0 V6 in the mustang with the 3.5 V6.
They honestly think GM would bring a base Camaro with a 5 speed manual? 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic.
I think they learned their lesson with the slow pontiac solstice and saturn sky.
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GrowUp 3:02PM (5/01/2006)
To our Mac users: sorry, but you'll need to find a friend with a PC as the animations are presently unavailable for your platform.
Which explains the crappy 1985 graphics.
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big John F-Body 4:20PM (5/01/2006)
Super Cartoon Camaro coming for 2009!
-side note... if a car gets designed on a computer, then shouldn't it look good on a computer?
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Corey W. 4:48PM (5/01/2006)
Whatever!!
I'd rather just wait till an ACTUAL production model exist...
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That One Person 4:52PM (5/01/2006)
I read this article and laughed...
I used to love MT. But the last couple years, they have just sucked.
This "debate" is totally bogus. By the time the Camaro comes out, if it even comes out, the Mustang would most likely whoop its ass...both in sales and performance.
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Juan-Tan 6:15PM (5/01/2006)
They can't really call it a Camaro seeing how it had a corvette engine and a CTS suspension.
The Mustang will definitely kill it when and if it finally comes out. Price and performance.
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chewy 7:53PM (5/01/2006)
The numbers in the magazine are really off, and not realistic. The trap speeds are definately higher than they are supposed to be. I don't think that they did a very good juob.
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holzer 8:34PM (5/01/2006)
The colors of the cars are that of the "Live Green, Go Yellow" campaign by GM.
Subliminal messaging?
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PiCASSO 9:44PM (5/01/2006)
Modelled Camaro looks pretty bad, compared to the Mustang. I dunno, but in person it looked so much better.
Software is pretty cool... and it allows you to rotate, zoom in, and reduce the speed at which the simulation runs.
Not really interested in the psuedo comparison, just the physics of the modelling. Graphics could be a little better, but then it would run very choppy on those "integrated" graphic cards.
Look forward to the Camaro when it comes out in production.
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Loren 9:16AM (5/02/2006)
Maybe GM should build these virtual cars, might cost them less in labor cost :D. Maybe that could turn a profit finally. This animation is about as inaccurate as they come. Your comparing a 05/06 Mustang to a 08/09 Camaro. GM will most likely dumb down this car and I am sure Ford will be adding a few ponies under the hood before 2008.
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G8rChris 8:37AM (5/05/2006)
This is kinda lame.. of course chevy would "win" its not even BUILT YET. So of course they'll give it just enough specs to try to beat the mustang. but the fact of the matter is they cannot beat the VALUE of the mustang. Price vs. Power ratio is the best on the road. gives you more room to spend a few extra dollars on it.
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SSphx 3:52PM (5/05/2006)
Apparently you guys were sleeping through the mid-90's when the standard Z28 rocked ass all over the GT. It continued until 2002 of course. Make no mistake, the LSx motors will always one up the modular 4.6, 5.4 liter motors that ford has. The only exception was the SVT S/C Cobras (03'-04) that put out around 390 at the crank. However, by that time the F-body was already dead. Look for the new Camaro to come standard with a LS2 or LSx 6.0L (400+hp) Z28, and a SS version rated in the neighborhood of 450+hp. If we are lucky we will see a ZL1 tag boasting 500+ hp. I would love to see ford try to compare their engine technology. ALL HAIL THE LS1!
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SSphx 4:00PM (5/05/2006)
"1. Yes that's all well and good, but who won? hah.
Oh wait, Ford did, they got to market first."
If you recall they did the same in 1965 and even with a 2 year lead they lost over 30% of market share after the introduction of the Camaro in 1967. It will be no different here as long as Chevy keeps the price on the same level.
If there is one thing that Chevy does good, it is making amazing performance vehicles.
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Victor 2:32AM (5/16/2006)
I would like to see the finish product going head to head and if you back in history you'll notice that Mustangs always have to be modify to beat the Camaro off the show room floor they are no competition so we know what to expect.
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