New York Auto Show: 85 FFV SUVs make a scene outside show
The sight of 85 Tahoes triple-parked in Manhattan is one to behold. GM parked the fleet of flex-fuel SUVs in front of the Javits center today to make a green scene before they're picked up and driven off to various New York dealerships. The group also contains the first ten flex-fuel Suburbans off of the production line.
It's a strange world we live in when a group of 85 illegally-parked SUVs in Manhattan are supposed to be a statement on behalf of the environment.
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RayRay 1:53PM (4/13/2006)
A desperate attempt on GM's part to draw attention to their vehicles.
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Sanjay 2:00PM (4/13/2006)
"It's a strange world we live in when a group of 85 illegally-parked SUVs in Manhattan are supposed to be a statement on behalf of the environment." - Not in the US obviously, this wouldn't happen anywhere else!
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Kamil 2:01PM (4/13/2006)
Weird. Plainly weird.
Most (some?) enviormentalists seem to be ignorant, and all that they would see would be just huge SUVs... and they'd want them burned down, in the name of everything that is green.
Is it ok if I drink Starbucks?
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Phil L. 2:02PM (4/13/2006)
According to www.e85fuel.org, there are NO public fuel sources for E85 anywhere in New York (and only 6 locations labeled "Private facility. No public access.").
Flex-fuel isn't such a nifty idea if the only fuel you can find it gasoline.
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Source1 2:05PM (4/13/2006)
GM always does things in a big way. Read George Wills editorial this morning about GM's welfare state...errr job banks where a lay-off from GM, courtesy of GM and the UAW, can net you $100k a year for simply showing up for a class on how to play Trivial Pursuit or just sitting in a room for an eight hour shift. No joke. GM thot they would sell their millions of cars and trucks forever and even came up with this idea, not the UAW. With policies like these, GM's shareholders are lining up to dump a companies stock that is soon to be as worthless as a Chevy Citation. I think we ought to look into the leadership of FEMA and find out if GM had any role in this Katrina debacle.
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Chris 2:07PM (4/13/2006)
Just curious and aside from the fact that there aren't really enough E85 fueling stations to warrant this behavior, what's a gallon of the stuff going for anyway?
I'm not moving into the poor house just to be green, I'd rather just plant a few more trees.
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Mike 2:20PM (4/13/2006)
in our area (denver) it is $1.99 for e85 vs 2.70 for 87 octane
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C'est Raoul 2:26PM (4/13/2006)
What is the point for a single person of commuting 50 miles/day in a flexfuel Tahoe 50 miles?
If you want make something for your wallet or the environment, this vehicle is for once, totally off the track...
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Chris 2:27PM (4/13/2006)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Columns/articleId=109914
A gallon costs $1.50, but your gas mileage is -35%.
In other words, it will pretty much cost the same as gasoline, but you have to fuel up more.
The point is achieving independence from foreign oil. World politics and economics. Many European nations are moving towards alternative fuels too for economic independence. The reason is not so much for the environment.
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Finished.Law.School 2:29PM (4/13/2006)
And what is the point that GM is trying to make with this aside from pointing out that double and triple parking in NY is (or is not) an issue??
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Richard Warren 2:29PM (4/13/2006)
#1 like nobody else advertises? Get a clue, we're surrounded by it, which, shoes, shirt, jacket, t shirt hat are you wearing today with a nme on it.
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jigga what? 2:38PM (4/13/2006)
What a scam.
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caffee 2:49PM (4/13/2006)
Jeff Neff,
How about getting your nose out of the foreign manufactures anal cavities. Autoblog has proven your bloggers either have zero knowledge about autobiles or an anti american bias that is as thick as your noggins.
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Mike 2:52PM (4/13/2006)
Give them a break! Its a fricking car show with all kinds of stunts by all the company's. Models and Celebrity's everywhere. #1 you need to get out more and learn a little about what your talking about before you post.Idiot!
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Rick Gee 2:53PM (4/13/2006)
Brazil is practically 100% free of the world oil market. All due to ethanol based vehicles. It's part of the future. Availability will ramp up quickly as soon as demand is created. That's the genius of America, in case you forgot. And E85 vehicles do not carry big markups, a la Lexus, or pricing subsidized by the manufacturer, a la Prius. By the way, a friend has an E85 Chrysler product here in Charlotte and availabilty is not an issue and starting to spread.
E85 is not as sexy as hybrid, but quickly getting an alternative fuel makes a lot of sense.
GM is on the right track.
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brandon konis 3:01PM (4/13/2006)
its bad enough that theres 10% ethanol in gas most places. Ethanolwill eat through, dry out and crack nearly anything made out of plastic like fuel lines and tanks.With the decreased fuel mileage the extra co2 wont offset the decreased NOx and SOX emissions escept in the midwest where they throw it out from every power plant like dirty water
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Puff Chippy 3:03PM (4/13/2006)
GM stunt = "You dirty American basterds, stop killing our planet with your crappy gas guzzling union made SUV's!!"
Toyota does same thing = "Wow, isn't Toyota wonderful? I got wood reading that article about how much they love our big blue planet. God bless those loveable Japanese."
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Forget.IT 3:07PM (4/13/2006)
Since I refuse to bow down and worship the earth, I'll keep driving what I want and let the people who are all caught up in this stuff, worship for me, too. I could care less. All this stuff is tied to big bucks not matter how it is spun or dressed. Consider me unimpressed and way too smart to think that buying hybrid or E85 isn't somehow tied to more profits and more energy consumption. I don't really care about more energy consumption because I have to pay for what I use anyway. Fair is Fair.
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Detroit? 3:42PM (4/13/2006)
"13. Jeff Neff,
How about getting your nose out of the foreign manufactures anal cavities. Autoblog has proven your bloggers either have zero knowledge about autobiles or an anti american bias that is as thick as your noggins."
Who's Jeff? If you hate auto bloggers so much, why are you on here?
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caffee 5:45PM (4/13/2006)
Hey Detroit,
Why am I on here? To aggrevate your sorry butt, what did you think.
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