• Dec 29th 2005 at 12:30PM
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It’s a fitting way to end a year that saw year-over-year declines for the Big Two automakers nearly every month except during the summer when employee pricing was the sales tactic du jour. Rueters is reporting that analysts predict GM to post a sales decline of eight percent in December, while Ford’s sales may drop up to 14.5 percent and DaimlerChrysler’s two to six percent.

The article cites analysts’ explanation of winter incentives being unable to sway buyers who had gotten used to deeper discounts offered by employee pricing.

The imports, however, will again post a collective gain for 2005 and gobble up another couple points of market share to increase their piece of the pie to 40.5 percent, up from 38.8 percent in 2004. Toyota in particular will likely report another gain for December, probably in the neighborhood of two to seven percent, while other Japanese automakers should remain steady or report slightly lower numbers for the month.

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      • 9 Years Ago
      So many typos and so few edit post buttons...
      • 9 Years Ago
      Everyone has opionions...and more importantly, real live experiences. If the domestics are taking a sheit, then why is that? Why aren't people swearing by them like lithous, or other such fools? Easy, because they know first hand they suck, and suck hard. Oh sure, everyone who drives a GM can squeeze 100K out of a car, yet that's where the Japanese were 10 years ago. Now w/ a Japanese car, you can expect (yes, expect) 200K. Hyundai from what I heard was specifying a new engine which will run 300K w/out a rebuild.

      So, who is the fool? Keep talking about the "100K" fantasy, meanwhile..the entire world has left you behind in the dust. Afterall, the difference between 100K and 200K is twofold.

      Fools....keep dreaming GM, keep dreaming....

      God rest your souls..your pathetic souls...

      • 9 Years Ago
      Having owned Ford, GM and Dodge products in the past, I can tell you from a drivers experience and from a quality standpoint my current Toyota and Subaru have them beat hands down. But maybe you prefer the service department job security that goes with GM products.
      • 9 Years Ago
      I think if people sat down and took into account what they are paying for a a domestic versus say a Toyota, it might be an eye opener. To pay more for a Prius than a small Chevy for example is a good study. The milage difference isn't as great as many think and over a period of five years the money spent on both, including the purchase price, would be very interesting.
      Of course the Big 3 need to get this message out, not us here on a blog.
      • 9 Years Ago
      Here is an observation, correct me if I am wrong...

      If GM and Ford got together to build a car to better compete with the imports it would seem that Ford would do the body and the interior (though with the Saturn VUE interior GM is getting better, I think without being as bland as Ford) and GM would make the engine and the rest of the drivetrain.

      Ford seems to make cars that look more like the imports (I mean look at the 500 or Fusion and look at the Malibu, the Ford's are much more Honda like than the GM) but I think the reliability of a GM car is better than that of a Ford car.

      Considering only the big 2 can make the components, what should each company be assigned to manufacture?
      • 9 Years Ago
      Sean Sean, your constant need to correct yourself is ironic.

      And before you label me as an import lover, I am, just euro not jap. And I do believe you completely about the reliability of the asian products - it's more percieved than real. I have a buddy that works in the business, and everytime they take a Honda or Toyota in on trade the previous owner swears up and down how it needed nothing but gas and oil. When the cleanup guys start to clean em out, they find stacks of repair orders for all sorts of things.
      • 9 Years Ago
      Consumer Digest = Consumer Reports. Sorry, I really should learn how to read before I submit.
      • 9 Years Ago
      Build quality cars with reliability using best methods as used elsewhere (the Japanese learned most of it from an American who was ignored at home), improve on the cars constantly, add value, keep the value quotient good, make the cars appropriately stylish for the market needs.

      Toyota can do it. Honda can do it. Hyundai can do it. Subaru can do it. Mazda is sort of with it. Suzuki's Japanese cars are sort of with it. Nissan is slipping but trying not to fall. Kia is trying to play catch-up with it's 50% owner Hyundai, is about 3-4 years behind but improving.

      Then, despite being left-out of the huge money trough presented to the US big-three by the Clinton Administration to develop 80 mpg "super car" hybrids, develop your own out of your own R&D and then ACTUALLY SELL THEM. Toyota and Honda can do it, soon Hyundai, Suburu and Nissan will do it too.

      Meanwhile, GM, Ford and DCX are busy building larger SUV's and "Hemi V8's" as their primary focus while the SUV market evaporates like spilled gasoline.

      See any trends here?
      • 9 Years Ago
      JCR ask your ex's Toyota dealer about the "secret" engine sludge problem they have. Mike, when was the last time you owned a GM? Maybe you should take another look. Honestly, we have almost NO warranty repairs in my service department. GM builds a good car, now they just have to prove it to the brainwashed masses that live and die by Consumer Digest. Truth be told, we were just talking about going to work for an import dealer so we could make some money.
      • 9 Years Ago
      I have owned about 20 cars in the last 20 years (business trucks, family & business cars). The brands include Pontiac, Olsdmobile, Ford, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Mercury, Hyundai, Lexus and Chevrolet. The Japanese brands were significantly more reliable. My GM brands have been particularly bad, especially the electrical systems and transmissions. One Ford F-150 had the crankshaft shear in two at 28,000 miles. That should never happen. My personal experience means I will be looking at Asian brands for my next car or truck.
      • 9 Years Ago

      Gee Rashass, I believe I stated WELL OVER 100K. Your lack of thoroughness in reading my words and spitting back what you read only further demonstrates how you are not world class and only fit too well in the rest of my statements below.

      People like you are why the U.S. divorce rate is so high. Americans are taught to go for the bigger better deal AT ALL COSTS and you apparently buy into it with no questions asked. Who cares if your spouse has given you 20 years, you see someone a tad better looking, don't even think about it, dump the spouse and go for the better one. It came about from people who wanted to sell some stuff and decided if they marketed heavy enough that "you deserve a break today" even though most Americans live the good life and aren't that efficient or world class at their jobs and the marketers tell you that you deserve this product because you work so hard (when they don't even know you, it is just a selling tactic but it went to peoples head). Americans all became these prima donnas. "Oh, I'm so good I need to go buy a BMW" or "That lazy American over there building Chevys, he isn't as good as me (as I surf the Internet during work, pay my bills at work and talk at the water cooler)". How much do you want to bet I could replace you with an Indian, Chinese or European person at 2/3 to 1/2 your salary?

      Even if there was a gap between U.S. and Asian autos I am not such a pussy that I am going to cry if my vehicle breaks down one extra time than a Honda. BTW, if you think Hyundai is the engine manufacturer with the highest miles on their engines or that specifying and reality are the same thing then I really am wasting my time here. Instead of being so proud of the Asian manufacturers why don't you get off your lazy ass and start working toward building cars and someday compete against Toyota (like Americans used to do, starting in their garages building things if they had to) instead of being proud of some companies that you aren't even associated with, unless you are associated with them and your opinions are just total bias crap?

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