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New NSX to get V10 + AWD

New NSX to get V10 + AWD

Posted Aug 17th 2005 7:30AM

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About a month after Acura officially announced the end of its much-beloved current generation NSX, more information is becoming available on its replacement due in 2008. According to AutoWeek, in addition to a V10 engine, Acura also intends on giving the next-gen NSX its SH-AWD (Super Handling All-Wheel Drive) that debuted on the new RL. It is possible the upcoming NSX will be based on the HSC concept (shown) that Acura unveiled in 2004, which featured an aluminum and carbon fiber shell, mid-mounted engine, and the super-car-mandatory F1 style paddle shifters. The new NSX definitely has some big shoes to fill, as the out-going NSX is one of the coolest super cars ever built. We can't wait.

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philip

How do Japanese auto maker "inflate" HP ratings? The 2006 Honda Civic Si is rated to have 197 HP at the crank, if you put one on a dyno, they produce 214whp, thats UNDER rated from the factory, not OVER rated. All Japanese automakers follow a self imposed HP rating, r34 skyline, rated at 276hp, put one on a dyno, it will produce in excess of 300whp. Im gonna beleive ANYTHING that comes out of detroit about Honda and Toyota. Theyre called Dumbestics, for a reason. American Iron, is no longer best, in fact, its the worst. Stupid redneck morons.

November 11 2005 at 10:15 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

AznFX

didnt somebody say the next NSX will be at most a little close to the HSC concept?

August 18 2005 at 10:15 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

whofan

"modern engine management combined with varying octanes, air temps, and humidity make a fixed horsepower rating pure fantasy"- (Zeus) Nothing truer can be said. Horse power is just one varible that contributes to the over all performance of a vehicle. It is one important reference used as a measure for performance. Its easy to understand but overrated and not real accurate. NO two engines are exactly the same. The new NSX and previous one are the nicest sports cars built outside the Corvette. The NSX is one Japanese car that has character.The old Datsun 240z was another one.

August 17 2005 at 8:35 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Brian

Scott, No where did I say that Honda should/would LOWER the price of the next NSX. I merely said that maybe they'd keep it relatively low (relative to other supercars, not $80k). Also, there weren't as many options in the supercar realm back when the NSX originally came out, so pricing wasn't as large an issue. Again, they may RAISE the price. No one knows, and to attack my SPECULATION is rather pointless since none of these comments are based in fact. "The current NSX is outpowered by any other car in its price range." Well of course, it's a 15 year old design that Honda stopped developing several years ago. Nothing noteworthy there. Everyone knows it was just a place holder and wasn't meant to sell in droves in recent years. And as for the credit I was referring to, I was talking about Honda's participation in that tiny little racing series known as Formula 1. You know, that racing series that pits international manufacturers against one another in the most technically advanced form of racing. To presume they can't build a supercar based on the former NSX's performance against CURRENT supercars is an ignorant statement. Do you have any idea how much "credit" Honda earned when the NSX originally came out?

August 17 2005 at 8:33 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

InitialB

New NSX looks sweet. I love how the domestic fanboiz respond with negative attacks that are totally unrelated. BTW Mike and all the other "Asians are Liars" dumbasses, if you actually read the article you'd see that many of the domestic manufacturers aren't even retesting because they don't want to spend the money until they upgrade their drivetrains. Also, if you knew anything at all about cars you'd know that modern engine management combined with varying octanes, air temps, and humidity make a fixed horsepower rating pure fantasy. Most of California's premium gas is only 91 octane... guess what, sports cars make less power on it because the ECU has to run the engine more conservatively. Should -all- manufacturers have to stipulate that their performance cars make less HP in Cali because of the available gas?

August 17 2005 at 7:58 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Bob

@ mike: maybe you should look again cuz the nsx didnt steal the corvette front end or the ferrari back end. they nsx looks nothing like a corvette from the front or a ferrari from the back.

August 17 2005 at 7:01 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Scott

"As for the price, all we can do is speculate. But I wouldn't be surprised if Honda would keep it relatively low and even take a loss if this is going to be a halo car for the company. I mean, it's not like it'll be selling in volume like the Civic or Accord." Everything you just said could have been said before the previous NSX gen came out, and guess what. That went for $80k. I highly doubt they would LOWER the price with a new one. "And Mike...come on, let's not be juvenile and make a ridiculous claim like "300HP with 140ft/lb." Give some credit here to Honda, they've earned it." They sure didn't earn it with the S2000! That car is definitely a torqueless wonder. The current NSX is completely outpowered by any other car in it's price range. So where did they earn this "credit" in the supercar realm? Maybe after they put a V10 in, they will earn credit, but I don't think they've earned it yet!

August 17 2005 at 6:48 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

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McCamish

You are saying the (240hp) S2000 doesn't deserve respect. There is no other 2 litre non-turbo engine stock standard road legal that compares. Now if honda makes a non-turbo 5litre V10 to the same standard as the S2000, it would easily be capable of 600HP. And since this is going to be their supercar I wouldn't be surprised. That's why honda have earned respect.

Also the old NSX was one of the best handling road car of all time, and I think you'll find that's where the American cars have been walked all over is in the handling department. I think a lot of the Corvettes were still running leaf springs.

With regard to power testing rules, all car companies have been testing power from the crank, which is always higher than at the wheels, and it's possible that they've been flowing in cold air and doing any number of things to increase power readings. But to say it's just Toyota and Honda is very naive. Stamping different rules on power readings will change EVERY companies power readings even you beloved Corvettes etc.

Just for general interest, Honda were getting 240HP out of their motogp 0.99L V5 motorbike.

November 23 2007 at 8:44 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Brett WeHo (LA)

Let's hope some marketing guy intercepts the "SH" designation. "Super Handling" is a cheesy term that sounds ricey in the translation, and will not appeal to knowledgeable enthusiasts who will be buying exotics such as this.

August 17 2005 at 1:31 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Brian

Wow BF, that comment was really helpful to this discussion. I feel all the more enlightened because you posted that. How can Honda lie about a HP claim when they haven't made one for the next gen NSX? Wow... As for the price, all we can do is speculate. But I wouldn't be surprised if Honda would keep it relatively low and even take a loss if this is going to be a halo car for the company. I mean, it's not like it'll be selling in volume like the Civic or Accord. And Mike...come on, let's not be juvenile and make a ridiculous claim like "300HP with 140ft/lb." Give some credit here to Honda, they've earned it. I'd like to see a lot of F1 trickle down into this car. I'd like to see a high-revving V10, maybe 9-10k redline. Only time will tell though.

August 17 2005 at 12:46 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Mike

It will probably 300HP, with 140ft/lb... All for double the price of a 'Vette that would kick it's ass, and still more expensive than a Viper... Will they come up with their own style this time instead of copying a Vette front end and a Ferrari back end???

August 17 2005 at 12:03 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply